Meet the Host: The Story Behind the Podcast

In a fun twist for episode seven of Berko and Beyond, regular host Ben Baldwin steps out of his usual role and into the guest chair. With podcast partner Azim taking over hosting duties, this special “Meets the Host” episode dives deep into Ben’s journey from a young actor and broadcast TV presenter to the founder of Chuffed Productions. The pair explore Ben’s move to the Berkhamsted area, the exciting world of video marketing and the driving force behind starting a local business podcast to build community connections.

Key Topics Discussed

  • Ben’s early career in drama school, acting, and unscripted broadcast TV.
  • The upcoming 20th anniversary of his video production company, Chuffed Productions.
  • The story of how Ben and his wife ended up in the Berkhamsted area to start a family.
  • The mission behind Chuffed Productions: creating video case studies that drive sales.
  • Why the Berko and Beyond podcast was created to foster meaningful networking over superficial small talk.

From Jobbing Actor to Video Production Expert

Ben’s career didn’t start behind the camera. Born in Sheffield and raised in the Peak District, he moved to London at 18 for drama school. After spending some time as a “jobbing actor” and working in promotions, he took a camera to a job and discovered a passion for video. This led to working on travel programmes and eventually presenting live, unscripted TV for revenue-generating channels on Sky and ITV. Around the same time, he founded Chuffed Productions on the side, which ultimately grew larger than his presenting career and is soon approaching its 20th anniversary.

Making a Home and Building a Business in “Berko”

Looking to escape southeast London to start a family, Ben and his wife were drawn to the Berkhamsted area. Following some great advice from a friend to “move out of London, and then have a baby” to ensure they met local friends, they initially settled in nearby Cheddington. Eventually, Chuffed Productions took over an office space in Berkhamsted’s Old Dairy, later moving into its current dedicated studio building. Ben loves the town’s independent shops, connectivity, and thriving high street, making it an ideal hub for local business.

Building Trust Through Video Production

At its core, Chuffed Productions specializes in B2B testimonial and case study videos that help companies attract new customers and succeed. Ben highlights that many businesses struggle with sales and demonstrating their value, making client testimonials a highly effective tool. The company’s work also includes exciting brand story videos, such as a logistically complex documentary-style project following a band’s cargo from a truck in Salt Lake City onto a 747 cargo plane bound for London.

The True Purpose of the Berko and Beyond Podcast

Starting the Berko and Beyond podcast wasn’t part of a rigid corporate strategy; Ben admits they launched it “messy” just to get it out into the world. Primarily, the show was born out of a desire to have more meaningful conversations with local business owners, avoiding the repetitive, surface-level small talk often found at traditional networking events. By bringing guests into the studio, Ben acts as a community matchmaker, helping local businesses, charities, and experts connect, collaborate, and share their expertise.

Key Takeaways

  • Networking should be meaningful: Your time is valuable. Focus on networking environments that allow for deep, interesting conversations rather than superficial chats about the weather.
  • Testimonials are powerful: Allowing your clients to sing your praises is one of the best ways to demonstrate your value and overcome a difficult sales cycle.
  • Start before you’re ready: When launching a new project, like a podcast, don’t wait for perfection. It’s okay to launch a bit “messy” and refine your process as you go.
  • Every business shares the same struggles: Whether you are a solo operator or a large corporation, all businesses face similar challenges with HR, recruitment, marketing, and sales.
  • Get a mentor: Joining a business mastermind group or finding a mentor is highly recommended for navigating the universal challenges of running a company.

Quotes from the Guest (Ben Baldwin)

  • “We make testimonial and case study videos that build trust and shorten sales cycles.”
  • “I’m doing it because I’m curious and I feel like… I’ve been here for a long time in Berko and there’s still loads that I don’t know.”
  • “At the end of the day, you are running a business. Your time is money, so don’t spend it… talking with someone about the weather that I’m not gonna be doing business with.”
  • “It doesn’t matter what your business is or what your business does, they all have the same challenges… whether it is HR, whether it’s recruitment, whether it is marketing.”

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Full Episode Transcript

[00:00:00] Ben: Hello and welcome to Berko and Beyond, the local business podcast for Berkhamsted, and the surrounding areas. I’m your host Ben Baldwin, and this week I’ve mucked up on the guest booking. So we haven’t got one, but I have got a plan. This is going to be what is commonly known in the podcast arena as a ‘Meets the Host’.

That’ll be me. Let’s find out who’s interviewing me.

[00:00:28] Azim: Welcome to the Berko and Beyond podcast. Our guest today needs little to no introduction. He’s the king in the north. He puts the rave in gravy. He’s Ben Baldwin. 

[00:00:38] Ben: How long have you been practicing that?

[00:00:39] Azim: for? I literally came up with that, like as I was walking up the stairs. 

[00:00:42] Ben: Uh, love it, right? First of all, uh, go easy on me.

And secondly, actually no, firstly, thanks for stepping in and uh, secondly go easy on me. 

[00:00:52] Azim: I’ll try to go easy. I remember, um, I was the host of the, uh, host. I was the guest on episode five. 

[00:00:58] Ben: Yes. 

[00:00:59] Azim: So you can see how easy Ben went on me. So there, good luck. Um, hello Ben. 

[00:01:05] Ben: Hello Azim. 

[00:01:07] Azim: Thank you very much for guesting on your podcast.

[00:01:09] Ben: Uh, and thank you for having me. 

[00:01:11] Azim: That’s okay. 

[00:01:12] Ben: It’s already weird. This, 

[00:01:14] Azim: it’s quite 

nice. 

[00:01:14] Ben: It feels really different. Sat in this chair. 

[00:01:16] Azim: It’s quite nice, isn’t it? I really like, um, being in this chair. 

[00:01:20] Ben: Thanks for the jacket as well. Maybe I need to up my wardrobe game. 

[00:01:24] Azim: Well, you know, I, I sort of built this, as I said, built this from scratch and I felt like, you know, you deserve me to, 

[00:01:30] Ben: alright, we don’t need to keep back reffing your episode and the fact that my, this is your backing, as in back referencing for, for the benefit of say 

[00:01:40] Azim: Sorry. 

[00:01:40] Ben: Uh, it’s my episode now. 

[00:01:41] Azim: Yes it is. Thanks. Um, so you are the founder and director of Chuffed Productions? 

[00:01:48] Ben: Yes, I am. 

[00:01:49] Azim: And you are also the host of Berko and Beyond. 

[00:01:53] Ben: I love the fact that you had to look above my head at the poster that’s there and read the name of the podcast off it.

[00:02:00] Azim: It was more because,

[00:02:01] Ben: you didn’t want to get it wrong. 

[00:02:02] Azim: No, I looked at it because I was like, you know, like I was appreciating. 

[00:02:08] Ben: Ah, got you. Okay. Rather than 

[00:02:09] Azim: reading, 

[00:02:09] Ben: Is there a question coming at any point? 

[00:02:11] Azim: Yeah, there is. Sorry. Yeah, we, we gotta, we gotta crack on. This is like past Freddie’s bedtime or whatever.

Um, sorry, Fred. 

[00:02:18] Ben: No. Now you have to tell everybody who Fred is, ’cause. 

[00:02:21] Azim: Fred works with us at Chuffed Productions and Red Branch Studios and he’s, he’s an excellent editor and a good friend. 

[00:02:28] Ben: Oh, he is working for you now as well? Is he? This is, you’ve come, you’ve commandeered my own member of staff. Right. Also, I’m 

[00:02:35] Azim: the host. Anyway. 

[00:02:36] Ben: Excellent. 

[00:02:37] Azim: Um, so anyway, back to, uh, the podcast, the 

[00:02:40] Ben: Questioning. Yes. 

[00:02:43] Azim: For anyone who’s been listening but doesn’t actually know much about you, even though I’ve given you an excellent intro. 

[00:02:48] Ben: Yes. 

[00:02:49] Azim: Who are you and what do you do? 

[00:02:50] Ben: Hello, my name is Ben Baldwin. As you’ve previously mentioned, I’m the host of Berko and Beyond, uh, the local business podcast for Berkhamsted and surrounding areas? Uh, yeah, so Chuffed Productions is my video production company. Uh, my background is like yours in broadcast tv. Um, mine is a bit longer ago when they were still doing things on tape in broadcast. Um, so I was a, I go even further back from that if you like to, I was born and bred, uh, in Sheffield.

Born in Sheffield, brought up in the peak district, and then Sheffield again, uh, moved to London when I was 18 to go to drama school. Uh, I failed the first year at drama school, which is pretty difficult to do. I 

[00:03:35] Azim: didn’t know that. 

[00:03:36] Ben: see there’s little gems here for you. So I actually spent four years at the Central School of Speech and Drama ’cause I was lucky enough to be able to repeat my first year.

I, uh, was a jobbing actor for a bit, then got bored of not having a job and being skint. Uh, so started to do, uh, promotions, some other bits and bobs and uh, so that was like on trade stuff. So the old days of going out and doing drink sampling or cigarette sampling and stuff like that. 

[00:04:07] Azim: That sounds great.

[00:04:07] Ben: Um, and then, I did a job for someone. I took a camera with me, started recording, and that’s how I got into video. And then, um, I’d always wanted to do something, you know, radio presenter or TV presenter or something like that. Was lucky enough to work on some travel programs. Um, as a PA, then as a sound guy.

And then I just did, as I said, it was the day of tape. We used to carry a tape round with me. At any time I could, he’d get stuck in the camera and I would record a couple of pieces to camera and that created a show reel that got me a job on some travel programs. I worked for Sky, for ITV on their revenue generating channels.

Did loads of, well, nearly swore on my own podcast. Then, uh, I did loads of live TV, used to do four hours a night, three times a week with unscripted. Um, and because that was revenue generating stuff, so it was gaming and gambling, uh, that was then, um, it kind of killed my presenting career ’cause people thought that was the only thing you could do.

So at the same time, I ran, started Chuffed Productions on the side. Uh, and then that got bigger than the presenting career. Uh, and here we are now in Berkhamsted, nearly 20 years on. 

[00:05:23] Azim: That’s amazing. 

[00:05:23] Ben: So yeah, Chuffed will be 20 in, uh, in September. 

[00:05:27] Azim: That’s awesome, dude. Um, and I’m sorry that your career at Babe Station didn’t work out, but you know, bigger. 

[00:05:33] Ben: Does anybody know what that station is? 

[00:05:35] Azim: Well, look it up. Google it. 

[00:05:36] Ben: Okay. Oh no, don’t, don’t Google it. And it wasn’t there though. It was recorded in the studio upstairs, 

[00:05:44] Azim: was it?

[00:05:44] Ben:  So one of the studios we worked in, believe it or not. You didn’t know that either, did you? Yeah, it was that genre of TV that was being filmed in, like that, yeah. Anyway, moving on. 

[00:05:53] Azim: Different times. Different times, 

[00:05:55] Ben: yes. 

[00:05:55] Azim: So how did you end up in Berkhamsted? 

[00:05:57] Ben: How did I end up in Berkhamsted? That is, um. That’s, uh, it’s a nice little story that actually, so, uh, we, my wife and I, Katie had lived in London and, uh, we wanted to start a family but didn’t want to start the family in London.

We just got a bit annoyed, a bit sick of London. We were in southeast London and we started looking for places to live and my family’s still up north. Uh. Her family are either in North London or in the Cotswolds. Um, so we were kind of looking at places, we were looking on the other side of Hertfordshire actually to start with because at the time Katie worked, uh, in North London.

Um, so that was the, that was the thing for her to get there. Anyway, long story short, we, someone mentioned Berkhamsted. And we came to have a look around Berko. Um, and we had a pint down at the boat with, uh, our good friends Sadie and Michael Groom, who many listeners of the podcast will, will know. Uh, and we were talking about, oh, we we’re gonna move outta London and we’re gonna start a family.

And the best piece of advice anybody’s ever given me was Sadie Groom who said, don’t have a baby and then move out of London. Move out of London, and then have a baby, because that is where you meet all your friends through NCT classes. Which did you, did you do NCT classes? Exactly. 

[00:07:21] Azim: Yeah. Well we did, um, Bump and Baby. Okay. It was a, a different flavor, 

[00:07:25] Ben: like the modern flavor of it. Yeah. Yeah. Modern version. 

[00:07:27] Azim: And do you know what we have? 

[00:07:28] Ben: And that was, it was, it was so right. And so we, we ended up not living in Berkhamsted, uh, because couldn’t afford it. Uh, so we ended up in Cheddington instead, which is two stops north on the train.

Uh, but it was, uh, it’s brilliant because we’ve got all the open spaces. It’s easy to get here. Um. And there’s a, there’s a longer story of how we found Cheddington as well. That was with someone I was working with and they said, oh, you want to try this little village that no one knows about? Um, and I’m pretty sure we ended up buying the house that she wanted.

Um, anyway, that’s another story. Hmm. Um, so yeah, that’s how, that’s how I ended up in Berko. And then actually it’s Sadie’s fault again that I ended up in, that Chuffed Productions ended up in Berkhamsted because she was moving, she had an office in what was the old dairy on Lower Kings Road. She moved out and said, do you want to take over the, the office?

’cause it’s becoming available. Uh, ’cause she knew I was looking for somewhere I kind of outgrown working from home. Little did I know she was gonna leave her husband behind as a, as a subletter. Uh, so Michael and I shared an office for a few years. Um, and then we moved out of, uh, we moved out of there just before COVID actually.

Uh, and then we moved back into Berkhamsted into this very building, um, six years ago. So, yeah. Uh, just at the back end of COVID 

[00:08:52] Azim: and it’s a great space. It’s nice. 

[00:08:53] Ben: Yeah, it’s a lovely space. If anybody wants to come look around it, perhaps recorded podcast or something here, or 

[00:08:59] Azim: Yes, please come and record all your content here.

Um, and also the Rex Cinema is over the road. 

[00:09:03] Ben: Rex Cinema is over the road. The Mad Squirrel is, uh, is at the end of the road, as is the Dower House. So it depends on how you feel. You could turn right for coffee, turn left for beer. 

[00:09:12] Azim: Yeah. 

[00:09:13] Ben: Or straight across if you wanna watch a movie 

[00:09:15] Azim: and do all three. 

[00:09:16] Ben: Yeah. Yeah. And quirky is at the end as well. So it’s brilliant for wherever you’ve forgotten someone’s birthday for birthday cards or whatever. Not allowed to buy my wife anything from Quirky anymore. 

[00:09:24] Azim: Why? 

[00:09:25] Ben: We went through a whole cycle of, I kept forgetting and that’s where the gifts came from. 

[00:09:28] Azim: That is a good tip.

[00:09:29] Ben: Yes. She was mentioning something the other day that she didn’t like, said I’d take them away then. 

[00:09:33] Azim: can’t wait to go by my wife some stuff from there. So when did you start calling it ‘Berko’, like a proper local? 

[00:09:40] Ben: Oh, probably early doors. ’cause it just, everybody else was. It’s just easier to say than Berkhamsted or Berko. I know can still go. I’ve got a podcast called that. I still can’t get it right. That’s why I call the podcast Berko. It’s that whole accent is accent thing, isn’t it? Of the, uh, you know, the northern accent. 

[00:09:58] Azim: But I, I have friends who lived here, so I’ve been here before. Okay. 

[00:10:01] Ben: Before 

[00:10:02] Azim: you had this office?

Yes. This is going back like 2017, 2018. You know, some friends lived by the river near the station and from the flat. 

[00:10:10] Ben: It’s a canal, not a river, 

[00:10:11] Azim: is it? Yeah. Some friends that 

[00:10:13] Ben: upgraded it. Yeah. 

[00:10:14] Azim: Some friends lived by the river’s. A 

[00:10:15] Ben: big title before we know it. 

[00:10:17] Azim: But it was really lovely and you know, I, so I’ve been here. Yeah. And it is really nice by Quarter Burger from them, but that’s because they’ve all been 

[00:10:23] Ben: Yeah, 

[00:10:23] Azim: yeah. Local for years. So I’ve just known it as that. 

[00:10:26] Ben: It’s a great town. All love it. 

[00:10:27] Azim: Mm. It’s beautiful. 

[00:10:28] Ben: I have to say that ’cause I’ve got a podcast named after it. 

[00:10:30] Azim: Yeah. I mean, you know, this is where we, um, 

[00:10:32] Ben: building a community.

[00:10:33] Azim: Yeah. Build our community. 

[00:10:34] Ben: Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:10:35] Azim: Um, so what is it about this area, um, that makes it such a good place to run a business? 

[00:10:41] Ben: Um, I think, I think being so close to the high street, so, um, works really well and obviously it’s a boring answer, but it’s like, it’s got the high street. You can walk out and, you know, get a coffee, get a haircut, get a beer, go to the shops, do whatever it is.

It’s got the independent bookshops, it’s got, you know, the bigger bookshop. It’s got, um, lots of cafes and stuff like that. So. Um, but it’s just well connected and for me it’s dead easy. It’s two stops on the train. Um, and there’s loads of businesses around, and I’ve gotta be honest, we’ve been, obviously we’ve been here now six years and we don’t do that much business with local, local businesses.

There’s a, there’s a couple that we’re doing. There’s a couple we do a lot, a lot with. And part of the reason, full transparency of doing this podcast is to meet more of those businesses and not necessarily to do business for, but do business with. ’cause as you know, um, the smaller you are as a business, you need to collaborate with other people.

And, um, that’s kind of one of the reasons for doing this podcast is to meet those other businesses. Sure. It’d be great. It’s great if someone’s gonna come on, find the work space, either do podcasts and stuff with you or do testimonial training, brand videos, whatever with me. Um, but also. I’m doing it because I’m curious and I feel like I don’t, I’ve been here for a long time in Berko and there’s still loads that I don’t know.

[00:12:16] Azim: Yeah, and we mentioned it before in the other podcast, um, episode that this area has like a great community and yeah, business, business wise. And, you know, you see it, you know, you had, um, Dacorum Borough Counci,l Christie. And that was really insightful about business in the area. I didn’t know as much about it until you had her right.

[00:12:38] Ben: Yeah. 

[00:12:38] Azim: I’m the host now. That’s, 

[00:12:39] Ben: yeah. Yeah, yeah. It’s, it’s fine for you. It’s the royal we for this podcast is absolutely fine, but it’s for this episode only, just so you know. 

[00:12:46] Azim: Thank you. 

[00:12:46] Ben: Unless I’m on holiday, then maybe you could actually pop in and, and a guest host for me.

Um, yeah, and there’s some massive businesses here as well. And real, real, real interesting characters. 

[00:13:00] Azim: So you touched on it, um, just now, but for those people steady, but for people who are hearing about it for the first time, um, what does Chuffed actually do? 

[00:13:09] Ben: Uh, in short, we make testimonial and case study videos that build trust and shorten sell.

I was gonna mock that up and shorten sex. I can’t say the word sales for some reason. 

[00:13:22] Azim: You can’t 

[00:13:23] Ben: say sales. 

[00:13:24] Azim: can’t say sales. I dunno how have you got this far? 

[00:13:25] Ben: Let’s try that again. We make testimonial and case study videos that build trust and shorten sales cycles. 

[00:13:33] Azim: I really wish that Freddie could press 

[00:13:35] Ben: that.

He’s gonna have to leave in the first attempt at that. Otherwise, me saying sales cycles is gonna sound really good. But in short, we make testimonial and case study videos because we’ve, uh, we’ve niched in that area because it’s what we’ve traditionally done for a lot of businesses, done it really well and sales is a struggle for some people and some people find it difficult to demonstrate what they do. Um, and actually the best way to do it is to have your clients sing your praises and ask them why you are good at what you do. I mean, we do load loads of other stuff as well, but that, that’s what, that’s what we specialize in.

[00:14:15] Azim: Yeah. But you did some great stuff. You did that video where you boarded the cargo planes, which was amazing. I dunno, talk about 

[00:14:22] Ben: it. Yeah, so that’s a brand video. So, um, 

[00:14:25] Azim: it was amazing. Like as a, as someone who is in the game as it were, that was really, really good. 

[00:14:30] Ben: Yeah. And that was, I have to, uh, a shout out to Dave Bradbury, who’s local as well, who we, uh, we worked with on that and he did the script and the voiceover.

Um, but in short, that was a brand story video. Um, but we followed Benson Boone’s. Uh, tour kit from Chicago in and to London. Um, and there’s a company called FreightMinds and they specialize in flying kit like that around the world. And it was fascinating, I mean, on so many different levels, and that’s what I really love about my job and is that I get to just take a peek inside other people’s worlds.

And I think, again, that goes back to just. Just naturally being curious and going and how does that work and why did that And how did, well, this was, this was not, it was 24 trucks, I think maybe more on the state side that drove from Salt Lake City to Chicago. Um, and I was like, oh, that sounds like, yeah, it’s a 24 hour journey in itself, loaded within the space of about six or eight hours onto a 7 4 7 cargo.

Um, and then flown to East Midlands Airport. So we had a camera guy in, in the States who filmed everything that end. We had a guy based at East Midlands Airport who picked it all up when it came off. Uh, and then it went into customs and we weren’t allowed anywhere near it. And then we had another crew pick it up in London.

So a lot of logistics and moving parts in that one. But, you know, big airplanes, big cargo and all that kind of stuff. And just even down to how they stack a pallet and the, these guys are are amazing. Um, and the other thing was at the time of the flight moved and kept moving. So you, you know, from a video production point of view, trying to get crew in the right place at the right time is usually like, well, it’s booked weeks in advance and it’s done this.

And we literally got a phone call saying, there’s a chance the plane might leave 24 hours early. And then it was like, whoa, okay. Right. Hang on, I’m trying to get permissions and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, we see all sort, all, all sorts of things, but yeah. Fascinating. Looking into other people’s worlds.

[00:16:39] Azim: Yeah. 

[00:16:39] Ben: So yeah, testimonials, case studies, brand stories. 

[00:16:44] Azim: I remember that because I was here in the office when you got that call about 

[00:16:47] Ben: the page. Yeah. I turned it several shades lighter, I think 

[00:16:51] Azim: a few expletives later. And um, you were fine. Yeah. But yeah, it was, uh, but like I say, it looked really good and it’s that you sort of, I’m guilty of it.

I sort of sometimes. Take for granted the work that we get to do sometimes, you know, we do some amazing things and really cool stuff, and until I speak to friends, you know, we’re mates and like I’ve known you for ages and we chat and it is just normal. You, you know, I can say to you, I’ve, I’ve done this.

I’ve, I’ve been, I’ve done the Olympics. You, you know, I’ve, we were filming planes the other day and yeah, it’s this stuff where it’s just, it’s just sort of normal, but it’s not normal. And we’re very fortunate to be in this position where we get to do this kind of thing. And that’s why connecting with people locally and speaking to like other businesses and people’s stories. Yeah, everyone’s got a story. You know what I mean? 

[00:17:36] Ben: I do know what you mean. 

[00:17:37] Azim: Yeah. And it’s, yeah, it’s really, really cool to. Do this kind of thing. 

[00:17:42] Ben: Yeah, and it, you’re right. I think sometimes it does take it for granted. Not on that job. Definitely didn’t take it for granted on that job.

There was a point where, you know, where I was gonna be on the jump seat on that, on that jumbo cargo, which is like, oh, that would’ve been super cool. 

[00:17:54] Azim: Yeah. 

[00:17:55] Ben: Didn’t quite pan out, but, um, uh, yeah, it did. There’s, like you say, everyone’s got a story to tell and, and everyone’s got, I think. In in businesses that expertise, there’s a reason as we’re gonna see people who we have on the podcast already.

We’ve had, you know, you’ve been there as the podcast expert. Uh, we’ve had, um, the, the sales expert as well, uh, in Lee. Ben’s been there as a leadership expert. Well, I’m sure we’re gonna end up with more leadership experts and coaches, um, on, on the couch and, and on the chair because there are so many different, um, takes and different ways of, of looking at business and, and looking at the ways of mentorship and, and training, um, and leadership.

[00:18:41] Azim: Amazing. Like I said, those stuff you guys are doing, it’s awesome. Um, so bringing it back around to why we’re here. 

[00:18:49] Ben: Good podcast host. Yes. 

[00:18:51] Azim: Yes. I’m centering it. 

[00:18:52] Ben: Okay. 

[00:18:53] Azim: That’s why I’ve got the jacket on. 

[00:18:54] Ben: Okay. 

[00:18:55] Azim: Um, so why did you start the Berko on Beyond podcast. Do you just wanna speak to loads of interesting people?

I mean, you’ve said about the business community side, but was there anything that drove you to sort of start this? 

[00:19:08] Ben: No, I, I, again, I’ll be completely honest, we’ve started this, or you’ve started the, the podcast side of this studio, which then actually feeds into, it’s not just a podcast set, it could be a round table discussion set.

It could be, um, uh. talking about families and legacy videos. How did you phrase that? How Legacy 

[00:19:31] Azim: podcast 

[00:19:32] Ben: It. Legacy podcast. Yeah. That kind of thing. Um, so we’d be daft not to do our own podcast to promote the fact that we’ve got a podcast studio. So I’m kind of doing that with this on our behalf, if you like.

Um, but yeah, mainly just to be. Just to find out and have interesting conversations. We, we spoke about it before, um, about the, this just chatting is where is where good stuff happens. Particularly in business. That’s why there are so many networking, um, so many networking events around, and a lot of them you just go to and it’s exactly the same people and they’re just trotting out exactly the same thing into a room that probably doesn’t have any of their prospects in there.

Um, whereas here, we, we can have, there’s an excuse to invite people in to have more meaningful conversations, not to sell to them, um, but just for them to sell to everybody else or, um, yeah, you just never know where a conversation might go. Your episode is actually the perfect example. We went off on a complete tangent on legacy, uh, podcasts, which was an idea that you wanted to talk to me about.

Uh. Just, there’s a bit of a sounding board and it’s like, oh, it’s not for the podcast. I’m like, come on, let’s have a chat about it now. Um, yeah, go back and listen to the Ben Morton episode. It was brilliant. We just, ’cause again, Ben and I know we know each other. We just had a really good conversation. 

[00:21:06] Azim: But it’s exactly that.

And this is what I said to previous episode as well. And like you said, the conversations are so important, especially now like it’s. I think there’s a big disconnect with people generally. 

[00:21:17] Ben: Mm-hmm. 

[00:21:18] Azim: I think social media plays a part in that, you know, like I went to one of those networking events recently and it was great.

You know, I haven’t been to one, so for me it was really nice to go and meet people, like-minded people and just chat, you know, just, it was just general chat. But when I was younger, you know, this wasn’t about, you know, going and meeting girls or whatever. I used to love going and speaking to people in the pub or like chatting to people.

And now I find that it’s not just because I’m older ’cause I still have that capacity and I founded the networking event and I’ve been stuff with you. You know, we’ve done a couple of jobs together. Yeah. That networking aspect. Well, just speaking to people, I’ve still got it in me. I still enjoy it a lot.

And you don’t do that as much when you just go out and about and not a lot of people do it. I find that it’s a bit, it’s a rarer to have that with people. You don’t get people coming up to you as much as they used to and being like, Hey, how’s it going and chatting. Well, you know, people are in their own little circles.

Yeah. Which is fine. And I get that. But doing this sort of thing for me, it scratches that itch. And it’s a, it’s the social aspect as well as, um, the conversations. You know, I think it’s all, like I keep saying, you know, it’s building the community, working with people and 

[00:22:25] Ben: Yeah. And I think that a lot of those conversations that you have at those networking events can just, they’re not, let’s be honest, it’s no good for me and it’s no good for you. There’s yet, on a human level, it might be, oh, it’s, you know, it’s nice when you get to know people and that there might be a slower burn of a collaboration somewhere down, but there are people that you end up talking to at those network events where it’s like.

What’s the point again? Not, not it’s for you, for, for them or for me. And actually, um, uh, business coach that I went to once, one of the, one of his best piece of advice was you, you go to a network. I’m not gonna remember it correctly either now, but it was basically, if, if the conversation’s not gonna be of, of any, any worth to you or to them, then just move on.

Otherwise it is just a, ah, you know, ah, the weather’s nice and at the end of the day, you are running a business. Your time is money, so don’t spend it. And, and I think you and I talk about this now with having young kids as well. Zach is younger than Connie and Nate, but, um, it’s, I’d rather be spending time with ’em than talking with someone about the weather that I’m not gonna be doing business with.

[00:23:38] Azim: Yeah. 

[00:23:39] Ben: I think you kind of get where I’m going with that. 

[00:23:40] Azim: Yeah, yeah. I do. I definitely do. What were you seeing locally that made you think this podcast needs to exist? Was there anything that stood out? 

[00:23:49] Ben: What was I seeing locally that I think, um, I, I think being totally honest didn’t even think about it. We were just doing it.

[00:23:59] Azim: Well, we just chatted about it. 

[00:24:00] Ben: Yeah. To 

[00:24:00] Azim: be gonna be honest, 

[00:24:01] Ben: like 

[00:24:01] Azim: we, we both discussed it before 

[00:24:03] Ben: it started off. I want to do a podcast. Purely from a selfish presenting point of view and just get feeling what that was like again, and, and do, and the whole curious and right, well, who am I gonna talk to? What, what is it that I do?

What’s gonna make it worthwhile for me and for us? And the conversations is gonna make it worthwhile for me. Yes, we might get some business out of it somewhere down the line. We might get some nice collaborations. We might be able to give business to some other people, um, further down the line or connect people in that whole networking sense of, oh, we had so and so on the podcast, um, and they really good for you.

They’ll be a good match. Oh, you are struggling with sales. Oh, how about Lee? Oh, you need some leadership in, how about Ben? Oh, you need a podcast? How about, so just being that kind of Molly Malone, would you get that reference? 

[00:24:51] Azim: No. 

[00:24:52] Ben: Freddie, you get that reference. Molly Malone. Sure. Thank you. No, hello Dolly.

Hello. Uh, he was the ma, the original matchmaker, so there’s a little bit of that going on in as well. Um, but yeah, I don’t think we really thought about it. And as I openly say on the podcast, this Will, it will develop and it will, it started out as just being a podcast for Berko and Beyond. It then made sense actually for it to be more a podcast about local business podcast, which thankfully we worked out before we launched.

So it’s been that from the start. But, you know, I do want to get other people on. Let’s get historians on and talk about, you know, the crazy history that is around this, this town. And, um, and let’s get, you know, just interesting people. 

[00:25:44] Azim: Hmm. 

[00:25:46] Ben: So, no, I didn’t think about it at all really. It just did it launch messy, I think was the words we used.

[00:25:52] Azim: Well, 

[00:25:52] Ben: you’ve gotta start just not too messy. 

[00:25:54] Azim: The best thing to do is to just start, right? 

[00:25:56] Ben: Yeah. That’s 

[00:25:57] Azim: the whole thing. Um, 

[00:25:58] Ben: but it’s, that’s, it’s the 80%, isn’t it? 

[00:26:02] Azim: So Paretos rule. Well, well, what are you hoping that people get from it? 

[00:26:09] Ben: I think the, the same hope they get, um, they get the same thing. They get the benefit of that matchmaking, the benefit of that listening.

If someone is listening and just a little spark goes, oh, oh, that’s a great idea. I should speak to them because I need some help with X or I need some help with y. So, um, to help publicize other local businesses to help build collaborations. And it’s not just businesses, you know, we’ve got charities who are gonna come on and there’s some fantastic charities that do amazing work and need more support around here.

Um, and we’ll have them all on and we’ll talk about it. And it’s not like we’re gonna be doing a red nose day or a, whatever it is, but we’ll explain how, how they need help and what, what support they need, and if people are out there that can help with that. And if people are there, can do business. And if we can get some of the bigger businesses in the area on that are looking for to do business with smaller business in the area or solo, uh, operators, then yeah. Fantastic. 

[00:27:13] Azim: I think it’s a real asset for the community. So you’ve been in business for 20 years, this podcast about business. And community. Um, what’s one piece of advice you’d give to somebody? In business. And I mean, I say that as someone who constantly gets advice from you. So, but generally speaking, 

[00:27:35] Ben: yes.

Some of it you asked for. Um, yeah, I mean this like, yeah, let’s be clear. This podcast was not here for me to give business advice. It was well to, uh, to interview people who might have advice to give. But actually every, anyone who runs a business has got advice to give. Of course they have. Uh, mine would be, um, uh.

Uh, all sorts, but, um, find a mentor, join a business group. Uh, I’ve been in several masterminds and stuff. Uh, all that kind of, and, and I think what we’ll find as we go through this podcast, uh, through the episodes is that it doesn’t matter what your business is or what your business does. That they all have the same challenges.

They all have the same issues, whether it is, uh, hr, whether it’s recruitment, whether it is, um, marketing in the terms of, you know, attracting new clients or new leads or whether it’s in sales. So if we can kind of all come together and help help each other, and I can get people on here that can offer kind of advice, then yeah, that’d be great.

[00:28:49] Azim: So coming to a close if someone, is that 

[00:28:51] Ben: it already? 

[00:28:52] Azim: Yeah, that’s it. It flies by when you’re having fun, right? Just 

[00:28:54] Ben: isn’t it? 

[00:28:54] Azim: Especially with your power host anyway. If someone’s listening and thinking about coming on as a guest, what would you say to them? 

[00:29:00] Ben: Oh, well that’s the best question of all. If you are listening or watching this podcast, don’t forget it’s, you know, video podcast as well.

Uh, and you want to be in the chair interviewed by me. Or you if I’m on holiday, uh, then send us an email podcast@berkoandbeyond.com. And by the time this episode airs, we’ll have fixed the email address and it will work, or go to the website, uh, berkoandbeyond.com. 

[00:29:29] Azim: Wow. All that’s left to say is Ben Baldwin of Chuffed Productions and of Berko and Beyond podcast.

Thank you very much. 

[00:29:37] Ben: Thank you. 

[00:29:38] Azim: That’s all we’ve got time for, for Berko and Beyond. We’ll be back next week with Ben Baldwin and a guest. 

[00:29:47] Ben: You know that’s going on the end. Thanks for watching this week’s episode of Berko and Beyond. If you’d like to be a guest on the show, then drop us an email podcast@Berkoandbeyond.com, and don’t forget to like and subscribe wherever you watch or listen to your podcasts.

We’ll see you next week.